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Also if Poots read this: Translate the game to Spanish, tons of new customers in Mexico, Latin America, and Spain are willing to pay astronomical prices in board games. Even if you only translate the Simulator. I can help with the translation.

It looks great doesn’t it!

Not every game can be a CMON game, right?

They should work on a cheaper version because the shipping to latam on top of the game is my networth :(

When you gonna put out a review?

ROOT is my constant. It's the only game I've ever created fan content for (my avatar picture is my faction) and it's my consistent mobile app game player too. I'm a Corvid player most often, having graduated from the Woodland Alliance. Ultimately, I keep chasing "my next Root." I can honestly say it can't be found. It's the greatest war game of all time.

Hi guys, love your channel and pation :) I totaly get your point and disagree personaly. It is intended as a special game, a work of art, a beautiful piece physicaly and son on and the acrylique make it a fun a cheap thing .. There are thousands of these games already. I think to be a special thing comes with... a price.... Then again I do agree on some parts .

GREAT STUFF! Keep it up!

The game is just full of King making which completely destroys the game for me.

Hey Jesse I’m going to be in Ohio for work next week it would be a lot of fun to meet up and game. I’ll be in Ohio may 20-22

If they packaged acrylic standee's in brown boxes!!! It's already hard to hide them, these things would stack up even more. I want the artwork in the game as an option. Kingdom Death Shop already has my info, just start charging me when ready.

I have always felt acrylic or even cardboard standees should be standard and miniatures would be optional.

Battlefoam has custom cut foam trays for kdm monsters that shape the models, that you can get in storage bags like those used for wargaming. I store kdm models in those

Might not be fair, since i came from 40k but like… it’s a hobby game. Its not a traditional board game at all. And if you have green stuff, then paint your models!

Interesting. For me, the miniature building, and painting is a plus for me. But, it would be great if you could get more people into the game… and Adam did mention is Jessie’s Con interview that he ‘missed an opportunity to make GCE a KDM 2.0 and sell out it as such (can’t remember his exact words). Also, they do have an incredible roster of artists and could leverage that even more.

Nah, I feel like wooden figures would be better. But thats just me, im obsessed with them since root lol

Thinking about this more , I think 15mm survivors with 50 mm monsters would be cooler then standees

If they could produce an Acrylic KDM that was $80-$100 I'd be down. The miniatures are amazing but I really don't want to build them and that price point is insane. Is there a way they could do screen printed meeples even?

this type of video is way better. Not a big fan of some of the other angles and far away shots it's hard to see on my phone

Kingdom Death is not my thing...but still enjoy your videos

This would be great. I sold all my KDM because it was just too much of a hobby outside of just enjoying the game and I have way too many games and storage is a premium. If KDM 2.0 has an acyrlic standee version (like Kinfire Chronicals boss battler) I would be all over buying the game again. There are so many people that will not buy KDM just because of the reason I sold it (forced to do an entire hobby outside of just playing the game) and I see threads all the time. I have my doubts it will happen, but it would be great. There is so much competition now when it comes to boss battlers and mini games in general and they all have pre-built minis that look just as good to me. Plus not only is acrylic easier to store and durrable, but it is beautiful because you get to see the amazing art from the artists and there is no need to speend hours and hours painting and building. I would expect the price lower though. I mean if I could get the base game in KS with Gamblers as it is now for $300, I think there is room in the price. Also could you imagine how amazing colored Acrylic tile terrain! It would look great and not get in the way of minitures.

While this is a neat idea, I think it comes from a place of misunderstanding. It isn't everyone's goal to cater to the most people or even make the most money. Sometimes respecting that a vision as an author or artist presents it means respecting that maybe that vision is not for you. There are plenty of other things that are the things you mention, just not this one, I will bring up Dark Souls and the creators being adamant that they are not interested in making an "easy" mode of the game, that is not their vision and that has to matter. And while this video addresses the digital experience, that did not come out of the blue without context. That was a direct response to Covid... Adam was trying to adapt to an uncertain world (he even wrote about thinking of developing it just so they could keep playtesting stuff after using other platforms), and mostly to create a way that would protect them from eventual repeats or similar events, after that it got launched. But yeah while a neat concept, trying to push creators to make the game you want or even telling them about profits. Without wanting to speak for Adam, but it has never been about making more money for KD, they still do pretty well with their sporadic sales of limited minis (with most selling out in a couple days) so yeah. While this would definitely appeal to more people, and it sounds like a neat idea upfront. Unless Adam's vision for his game changes, I don't see anything like this happening. And personally I would much rather see them invest the time and effort to some of the ideas that they still have in the works (an RPG, different types of expansions and deeper content into the lore etc) than a remake of the same game, but for a wider audience. Personal opinion btw! I still think its a neat idea :) just thought of pointing out some stuff.

Hot take: the otters are most comparable to the vagabond. You want to try to encourage other players to cooperate with you in the beginning, lay low, until your economy is strong enough to turn the tables on the players. My best games as the otters are always where I have four or so troops out for the first half, keeping prices low, and commiting funds from other players as often as possible. I let people know cool things they can do with my services and then start building a power block on two to four trading posts. Then I trutle up and score dividends, they need my mercenaries or boats yo get around my power block and my card prices are too low to resist

Personally I wouldn't want them to ever take their eye off the goal of creating a grandiose spectacle of a game. They should always be moving forward to whatever the next bigger, darker, part of the story they want to tell is. I just think they should avoid rehashing the game into something that dilutes Adam's original vision. KDM is not a game that I personally would take on the road with me, there's a million other smaller games for that - KDM is a game for filling my home with, a centerpiece of my games collection, and and adventure just waiting to happen... What madness comes after an acrylic version? KDM Pocket Edition - with a small peg-board like Battleships but with different colored pegs to represent players and the monsters? #SaveKDMFromThisMadness

I don't want models to go away. Narrative sculpts are sick af but I cannot agree more that acrylics coming with them for the art is brilliant. And we usually sit 2 players per side of the table so we will always be at the perfect viewing angle.

While I personally want the miniature version. I think this is a very good idea.

Brilliant idea! Love painting my models, but I'd buy more expansions if they were at a lower cost and had beautiful acrylic artwork. Would likely also rebuy the main sets I have in acrylic!

Target store version of kdm set durring a fantastical ice age fighting mammoths, Saber tooth tigers and dragons.

I would buy an acrylic version, for sure. No interest in massive miniatures at all.

This might be my favorite video that you've created in a long time, Jesse! This is the kind of content that I really dig!

I absolutely agree with the acrylic idea. You have to keep the game beautiful and eye catching

Haha first world problems

Certainly the game most worth backing. I demoed it at Pax Unplugged with West. I wish I could even back one game this year, a:-(

I also disagree. I know the more options better argument but I feel like the game would lose too much charm. Everyone should experience it with minis imo. If you’re interested, buy it. If you don’t like it sell it. There are always buyers.

BLASPHEMY!

Games having a standee version has been a tipping point for me to back it at crowdfunding. I may be wrong, but I feel the solution for most games would be to remove minis from the games and offer them as addons only. This makes a game more accessible without having to create two versions. Mini versions tend to cost more in most cases, so those who want the minis can't complain about having to pay for an addon as the price increase is always there anyway. This just allows those who don't want minis to get the game at a slightly lower price point. One game I backed because they offered a standee version was Nemesis Retaliation. My only problem with that campaign was that none of the expansions (new characters and alien races) came with standees. This is where having the game and expansions come with standees only and having a box or boxes of minis as an addon would have worked great. All that to say, yes, to a KDM standee version! Lol

No matter how old, a 🐦 is a 🐦, no questions asked :-D

Most of these arguments are odd. You want to be able to make the game portable? But some feldherr foam and put it in box. I’ve safely transported the game dozens of times, without any issues. As far as the “hobby” barrier, personally I never though I’d assemble or paint any miniatures, as I didn’t find it appealing at all. When I got my hands on KDM, I was “forced” to do it. Sure I still have a lot of unassembled stuff, but that’s mostly extra armor kits. It didn’t take that long to assemble and give something a basic paint job. You have storage issues, because you haven’t bought a shelf. Go do it, today, and there storage issue is solved. KDM is not accessible by default, it’s a deliberate choice to not go to compromise with their vision for accessibility (and profit). I don’t know why you are trying to force this upon APG.

I have never even considered KDM for 2 big reasons 1) cost of entry is insane 2) I do not want to store it.

I've tooled around with making a smaller footprint, abstracted Kingdom Death using wood bits for everything. A white grid map, colored rectangles stood on end for survivors, larger discs or octagons for monsters, etc.

Im not so sure the price point would be lower, but it would be an acceptable trade for portability. Like you, I think I would buy another copy of the game simply for that aspect. This is coming from someone who is also going to buy another copy if they discount the game like they did at last year's Black Friday sale. Just looking back on the success Shadowborne Games had with Oathsworn, and its two distinct versions, shows that there would be a market for both versions. Just like with KDM, porting that game and its 4 huge boxes around can be a chore... though at least that game all fits back into its boxes. The same goes for Dragori Games and Tanares Adventures. Having a more portable option for people is a huge plus. Having jumped in on the third printing of Tanares myself, I'm wondering where exactly all those boxes are going to go when they arrive. And you know they all wont travel with me if I bring the game along. It will be enough of a burden to bring the two ultimate boxes. Having multiple versions would be a huge plus. KDM is absolutely a game I would (and do) deluxify. The hardest part would be actually going back and remaking versions of stuff that is already available. Im not so sure how viable that would be.

Is Cthulhu Wars on your list to play?

I think it will and should be for a much lower price point. One acrylic sheet can print a bunch of monster in one go so I think the manufacturing of it will be much lower that all those sprues but I might be wrong. I will definitely get an acrylic smaller version of KDM if available and cost less.

Agreed 100%. I would so love to play this game but am fundamentally opposed to the idea of paying $400+ (that's not even including shipping) for a game I have to still assemble.

I think the way to go would be, the next major version planed 1.7 or 2.0 could come without mini or standee at a lower price point. Existing player could upgrade for a smaller fee and new player could chose standee ar mini pack for the base game. Only problem is if they do it they will need to provide standee and mini for all the existing expansion...

I'd be willing to give Kingdom Death a try if it had a less expensive standee version. I sometimes enjoy painting miniatures, but I absolutely do not enjoy assembling them. Also, Monster Fight Club is making acrylic standees for their Cyberpunk Edgerunners/ Cyberpunk Red Combat Zone, and I'm looking forward to seeing if other publishers will be following after them.

This idea would make a killing on kickstarter.

I made my own standees with Kingdom Death Artwork a while ago, definitely made it easier to bring to conventions!

I agree. More games need to go acrylic. Uprising is one of my top 5 games and the price to content, to look and feel are part of that I want vagrant song half for the look of it and would buy Townsfolk Tussle if they did a acrylic version because I like the art WAYYY more than the 3D models

Could you check out Altered ? An upcoming tcg, it is SOOOO board gamy ! I think you would love it, and it needs come english covering !